{"id":1087,"date":"2017-01-12T08:44:03","date_gmt":"2017-01-12T08:44:03","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/polyamorousmisanthrope.com\/wordpress\/?p=1087"},"modified":"2019-07-15T15:53:18","modified_gmt":"2019-07-15T15:53:18","slug":"you-have-rights-in-relationships","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/polyamorousmisanthrope.com\/wordpress\/2017\/01\/12\/you-have-rights-in-relationships\/","title":{"rendered":"You Have Rights in Relationships"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><em>I&#8217;d like to ask your advice &#8211; I am having some trouble getting over a break-up and wondering how to move forward. <\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Basically, I was seeing a guy for a few months. We had spoken the first time we saw each other about our other lovers, and I understood he had a Domme he saw regularly, and he knew I have a couple of lovers too.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Skip to months later, he came to my house and we had some kinky fun all night. The next morning, I wanted some regular, cuddly, vanilla sex, so I asked him (while we were both naked, aroused, in my bed) if he did too. At that point, he said &#8220;I want to, but my girlfriend says I can&#8217;t do that anymore with you.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>I immediately burst into tears and asked him to leave. We&#8217;ve since spoken about it several times, and he says he told me about the girlfriend the first time (I concede that I must have misunderstood when was talking about his Domme. But I was never aware that he had another partner who could set conditions on\/ veto my relationship with him. I wouldn&#8217;t agree to that, and I still feel like he withheld information that was important to my ability to consent, in order to get kink play that he couldn&#8217;t get from his other girlfriend. He changed the conditions of his relationship with me without asking or checking in with me. We had previously had plenty of PIV sex.)<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>I don&#8217;t mean to make him into some sort of evil caricature: he says he is new to non-monogamy, and that he was simply unaware he should tell me that he had a new agreement with another partner (even though it affected me directly.) He had also told me he didn&#8217;t consider it a hierarchy, and felt both relationships were equally weighted. He is submissive sexually, and I think he finds it difficult to speak openly, especially when it may not be something the other person wants to hear. Also, I&#8217; completely aware that the main reason I am hurting so much is my own insecurity. And that I should had asked more direct, probing questions about his other relationships. <\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>The point is, I can&#8217;t stop crying about it (weeks later.) I feel like I&#8217;m an eternal &#8216;secondary&#8217; partner, and I&#8217;ve had several experiences where a (hetero-) couple assume I&#8217;ll just take up any &#8216;left-over&#8217; emotional space\/ intimacy. <\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>I thought I had made clear I wasn&#8217;t interested in being in such a hierarchy, but clearly I didn&#8217;t. I&#8217;d like to add something to me future negotiations that makes that abundantly clear. Non-monogamous people seem to follow the primary\/secondary model in a pretty big majority- but I find it to be potentially hurtful, and at the least not what I am looking for right now. But is that reasonable? Do you have any advice for communicating that?<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I\u2019m sorry that you\u2019re going through something so\nupsetting.&nbsp;&nbsp; Breakups suck, no matter how\nyou slice it.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Thing is, you have a right to be treated better than this.&nbsp; You have a right to know agreements that\nanyone you\u2019re involved with has up-front, including whether or not they have a\nveto agreement in place.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I\u2019m not a fan of vetos. I don\u2019t think they solve what\nthey\u2019re meant to solve, nor do I think they address the problems that they are,\nin theory, supposed to address.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>As far as how to communicate it to a partner?&nbsp; You\u2019re lucky. This one is really simple:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cBefore we get involved, I want to know about agreements you\nhave with your partner. These agreements include safer sex agreements, any\nactivity restriction you have front-loaded and whether or not you have any veto\nagreements between each other.&nbsp; I do also\nwant to front-load a hard line I have:&nbsp; I\ndo not form sexual or romantic relationships with people who have veto\nagreements with their partners.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This has a double benefit. Anyone you want to date will be\ntotally happy to answer these questions and even be glad you brought it up. If\nthey freak?&nbsp;&nbsp; They may not have\ncommunication skills that are refined enough to be a good relationship match\nfor you.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;d like to ask your advice &#8211; I am having some trouble getting over a break-up and wondering how to move forward. Basically, I was seeing a guy for a few months. 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