{"id":1112,"date":"2015-03-08T09:00:24","date_gmt":"2015-03-08T09:00:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/polyamorousmisanthrope.com\/wordpress\/?p=1112"},"modified":"2019-07-15T15:56:41","modified_gmt":"2019-07-15T15:56:41","slug":"not-for-personal-growth","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/polyamorousmisanthrope.com\/wordpress\/2015\/03\/08\/not-for-personal-growth\/","title":{"rendered":"Not for Personal Growth"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>This is a letter from a reader, but is long enough I want to\nintersperse my answers by paragraph.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>In a previous post addressing jealousy and abandonment issues, you said the real question is, \u201cAm I happy in polyamorous relationships?\u201d I&#8217;ve been struggling with that question, and I wanted to ask another in response to it: Can I *learn* to be happy in polyamorous relationships? Are there ways to become happy, or at least contented \/ capable of living long-term in situations that are initially painful?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Absolutely.&nbsp; We can accustom ourselves to many things.&nbsp; I don\u2019t necessarily advise twisting your<em>self<\/em> into knots for the sake of a romantic relationship, though. They\u2019re supposed to enhance who you are, not twist it out of recognition.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>I live with The Partner, my beloved and best friend from high school. TP discovered a year ago, after we&#8217;d been together for nine years, that he was poly-curious. TP will not say if remaining monogamous would be a dealbreaker for him; he wants me to determine what I think I can handle independent of knowing that. He has a prospective partner, though their relationship has not become sexual yet.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>I am not poly. I have never mustered and sustained crushy feelings for more than one person at a time. I only have bandwidth for one romantic \/ sexual relationship at a time. If TP had said to me when I told him I was romantically interested in him, &#8220;Yes, I will date you, but I will be having other partners, too,&#8221; my response would have been, &#8220;I continue to love you dearly as a friend, but I think that we should not date.&#8221; There is no one else I would consider being in a poly\/mono relationship with.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>I think you might be on to an answer here, ya know.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>Still, I&#8217;m invested in continuing this relationship. I can&#8217;t imagine my life without TP in it. Long before we started dating, I told him that I wanted to know him forever. That&#8217;s still true. He has supported my effort to improve my mental health in a way that no prior partner did. I admire his curiosity and wit. He admires my empathy and my silly streak. I&#8217;m closer to his family than I am to my own. He is hot like fire.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>*wince*&nbsp; All, and I\nmean <em>all<\/em> relationships end, and you\ncan\u2019t necessarily predict when or where that will be.&nbsp; I\u2019m uncomfortable with anyone\u2019s relationship\nof any sort being such that they cannot imagine life without it.&nbsp; Whether or not you stay with TP, you need to\nwrap your mind around that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>But some of our entanglements feel more confusing than helpful at the moment. We started out long distance, and I moved to live with him. Most of my friends, I met through him, and he&#8217;s not out to most of them. There aren&#8217;t a lot of people I can talk to locally when I struggle, other than him or Therapist, without outing him. I can journal, but my journal can&#8217;t give me a hug or tell me that what I&#8217;m feeling isn&#8217;t stupid or wrong. I would like a support system that doesn&#8217;t respond by saying \u201cThat never works! Run away!,\u201d as happened with the two mono friends I asked permission to tell, or by saying \u201cAdapt or get out of his way,\u201d the chief message I&#8217;ve gleaned from reading poly resources.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Not \u201cget out of his way.\u201d&nbsp;\nGosh, what a horrible attitude, and I sincerely hope that whoever is\nsaying such a thing will stop it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I want to talk about <em>you<\/em>.&nbsp; What do <em>you<\/em>\nneed in <em>your<\/em> life to be happy and\nfulfilled? Can TP do that?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>(For that matter, I\u2019m also curious what your therapist\nmight think of this.&nbsp; I hope you\u2019re\ngetting support and advice from that quarter!)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>I have significant insecurity and fear of abandonment (the standard-issue human sort plus some stemming from emotional abuse). I started working on these in therapy prior to TP determining that he would prefer poly but do not see improvement. I anticipate that when we open&#8211; the only way I can know for sure if I can learn how to cope with having a partner who has other partners&#8211; the difficulty I&#8217;m already having will become more pronounced. I doubt that I will come to feel content partnered with a poly person within the two-year trial I&#8217;d commit to, but I think I owe him trying. (I also recognize that a poly noob with an extremely ambivalent long-term partner probably looks like drama waiting to happen&#8211; I&#8217;d like not to be the kind of liability for people considering dating him that I expect I&#8217;ll be.)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Your mental health needs to come before any relationship\never.&nbsp; At all.&nbsp; What do you need for your mental health?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>On the other hand, he has been pretty clear that breaking up is not an acceptable outcome to him. So, are there ways you know of that I can learn to want something other than what I currently want? And is there a way to distinguish between the kind of pain that will yield and diminish in time and the kind that is not going anywhere?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>No, changing yourself and your needs to keep someone never\nworks.&nbsp; I am so sorry, but it\u2019s the\ntruth. It\u2019ll break you in half and putting yourself together after such a thing\nisn\u2019t going to be an easy process. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>As far as the pain thing? ALL pain ends.&nbsp; Thank goodness, or I\u2019d still be writhing\nafter a breakup in which I compared my feelings to having someone doing an\nautopsy on my awake and living body.&nbsp; The\ndifference is whether or not you\u2019re continually being re-wounded in the process.\nThe question is going to be, is being involved in a poly relationship going to\nwound you so that the lack of pain is actually scar tissues for constant cuts,\nor is it going to be from genuine healing? I can\u2019t make that call, and I think\ntalking to your therapist on these issues is a good idea.&nbsp; If you think poly isn\u2019t for you, you\u2019re\nallowed to say that and let TP make his choice. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I break with a lot of poly thinkers who seem to have this\nidea that poly is a method to challenge yourself for personal growth.&nbsp; I\u2019m not unilaterally on board with that.&nbsp; I don\u2019t try for something difficult and scary\nin my chosen sport when I have a serious case of the flu, and I am not sure\nthat when one is experiencing serious mental issues that it\u2019s the best time to\nbe expanding one\u2019s comfort zone in extreme ways, either.&nbsp; I\u2019m not talking out of my ass with that\none.&nbsp; I have a pretty bad problem with\nchronic depression and there\u2019s a time and a place for challenge and a time and\na place for the emotional equivalent of chicken soup and a cozy blanket.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The fact that your answer about poly before you became\ninvolved with this fellow was a pretty resounding no does sound to me like\nmaybe it isn\u2019t for you and I don\u2019t know that tying yourself up in knots is necessarily\nthe best choice.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I wish I could write some easy ten-step version of how to\nmake yourself okay with anything just to keep the person you\u2019re in love with.\nBut honestly? I don\u2019t know that it would do anything other than encourage\npeople to stay in relationships that are not mutually nourishing.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This is a letter from a reader, but is long enough I want to intersperse my answers by paragraph. In a previous post addressing jealousy and abandonment issues, you said the real question is, \u201cAm I happy in polyamorous relationships?\u201d I&#8217;ve been struggling with that question, and I wanted to ask another in response to&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2,3,4],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1112","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-ask-the-misanthrope","category-boundaries","category-communication"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/polyamorousmisanthrope.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1112","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/polyamorousmisanthrope.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/polyamorousmisanthrope.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/polyamorousmisanthrope.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/polyamorousmisanthrope.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1112"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/polyamorousmisanthrope.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1112\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1140,"href":"https:\/\/polyamorousmisanthrope.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1112\/revisions\/1140"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/polyamorousmisanthrope.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1112"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/polyamorousmisanthrope.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1112"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/polyamorousmisanthrope.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1112"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}