{"id":628,"date":"2012-01-10T09:00:50","date_gmt":"2012-01-10T14:00:50","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.polyamorousmisanthrope.com\/?p=628"},"modified":"2012-01-10T09:00:50","modified_gmt":"2012-01-10T14:00:50","slug":"trying-to-break-us-up","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/polyamorousmisanthrope.com\/wordpress\/2012\/01\/10\/trying-to-break-us-up\/","title":{"rendered":"Trying to Break Us Up"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"margin-left: 36pt;\">What to do when a secondary female is trying get the primary male to breakup with the primary female in a polyamorous relationship?<\/p>\n<p>This \u00a0was not an Ask the Misanthrope Question, but a search term that appeared to link to this blog. In casting around for a topic upon which to write, I figured this was a good one.<\/p>\n<p>If you do primary\/secondary poly (and not all do) there is a time-honored and wonderful response to this.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Not a goddamned thing.<br \/>\n<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>No, don&#8217;t look at me like I have three heads. I&#8217;m serious on this one. While I really do, no kidding, believe in being proactive, this isn&#8217;t in your hands. If your primary wants to stay, s\/he&#8217;ll stay. If s\/he doesn&#8217;t, s\/he won&#8217;t. Simple, simple, easy-peasy. Ultimately, you&#8217;re being done a favor, no matter how much it might hurt or suck in the face of it. And yeah, losing a partner hurts and sucks. I&#8217;m not trying to blow that off, &#8217;cause, man\u2026 Ouch. You can feel like someone&#8217;s performing an autopsy on your living body in the process. I get that.<\/p>\n<p>But\u2026<\/p>\n<p>If another person really <strong>can<\/strong> break up a relationship between yourself and a love, you need to let it happen. Seriously. Otherwise, you&#8217;ve got someone who is only half-heartedly committed or interested. Who wants or needs that crap? You&#8217;re only going to be let down, and maybe in a worse way than is facing you.<\/p>\n<p>If the relationship <em>can&#8217;t<\/em> be broken up, then you&#8217;ve got some tempered steel there in the relationship that is truly awesome, wonderful and valuable. Try to be worthy of it!<\/p>\n<p>Now, maybe you favor a little more communication than what I&#8217;ve advised. You know, communication can be good, too. So, here&#8217;s some things you can say:<\/p>\n<p><strong>&#8220;I love you and want to stay with you. I am concerned about what&#8217;s going on. Do you want to stay with me?&#8221;<br \/>\n<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ain&#8217;t nuttin&#8217; wrong with asking for what you want and saying how you feel. This can take some courage, especially if you&#8217;re feeling insecure. But if you&#8217;ve got a good relationship with someone who tells you the truth,* you&#8217;ll get the truth and will have somewhere to go from there.<\/p>\n<p><strong>&#8220;I see &lt;secondary&gt; doing &lt;foo&gt;, &lt;foo1&gt;, and &lt;foo2&gt;. It worries me. What do you think about it?&#8221;<br \/>\n<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>You have to be <em>absolutely concrete<\/em> about behavior here. You might have a &#8220;feeling&#8221;, but unless there&#8217;s behavior to hang it on, discussions about it aren&#8217;t going to be very productive. In fact, if there&#8217;s nothing concrete to hang it on, your best bet is to observe rather than be reactive. In this instance, once you&#8217;ve identified the behavior, you&#8217;re still not interpreting it. You&#8217;re also showing that you&#8217;re open to learning what&#8217;s going on. You&#8217;ve got a concern, you&#8217;re bringing it up and you&#8217;re willing to <em>listen<\/em> to the answer.<\/p>\n<p>But the big takeaway here is that no matter what, if you&#8217;re looking for a magic formula to enforce a specific dynamic, it ain&#8217;ta gonna happen. If you&#8217;re looking for advice on &#8220;how to keep your man&#8221;, I can&#8217;t help you. I don&#8217;t even think it&#8217;s wise. If he wants to go, let him <em>go<\/em>. I hope you&#8217;re too stinkin&#8217; proud to remain in a relationship with someone who doesn&#8217;t want to be there, anyway. Certainly you deserve better.<\/p>\n<p>_________________________<\/p>\n<p>* If you have a partner that habitually lies to you, that&#8217;s an entirely different problem.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>What to do when a secondary female is trying get the primary male to breakup with the primary female in a polyamorous relationship? This \u00a0was not an Ask the Misanthrope Question, but a search term that appeared to link to this blog. 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